{"id":1006,"date":"2014-09-25T15:59:28","date_gmt":"2014-09-25T14:59:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/?p=1006"},"modified":"2014-10-25T12:23:48","modified_gmt":"2014-10-25T11:23:48","slug":"38-degrees-this-is-not-democracy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/38-degrees-this-is-not-democracy\/","title":{"rendered":"38 Degrees: This is NOT democracy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have just received an email message from 38 Degrees, an online campaigning organization in the UK that claims to have three million members of which, apparently, I am one. \u00a0The subject line is &#8220;Islamic State&#8221; and the message asks me to &#8220;vote&#8221; on what I think 38 Degrees should do. \u00a0I was given this link:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/secure.38degrees.org.uk\/page\/s\/air-strikes-poll-2#petition\">https:\/\/secure.38degrees.org.uk\/page\/s\/air-strikes-poll-2#petition<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>This is not democracy &#8212; it is just an online poll. \u00a0Where do I, or anyone else, have the chance to engage with other members and try to persuade them of my view? \u00a0Where I can I hear their views? \u00a0<\/strong><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>I won&#8217;t even comment on the matter\u00a0of whether anyone, a 38 Degrees &#8220;member&#8221; or not, can vote in this online poll, or vote multiple times (possibly using multiple email addresses).<\/p>\n<p>I won&#8217;t discuss\u00a0the issue\u00a0of who wrote the questions we are voting on. (Who did write them? \u00a0Where was this decided?) \u00a0The mass mailing I received makes reference to &#8220;the scandal of the UK&#8217;s 2003 invasion of Iraq&#8221; &#8212; but maybe not every 38 Degrees member will agree with this?<\/p>\n<p>The mailing also contains links to articles from the New York Times, Guardian and Washington Post, plus the &#8220;Stop the War Coalition&#8221;, an organization which in my view is lacking in all credibility. \u00a0So presumably we are to read these 3 or 4 links and then make up our minds?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Giving &#8220;members&#8221; a vote but not a voice, a chance to say yes or no to pre-determined positions without any debate, is the stuff of authoritarians, not democracy.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I am sharing this blog with 38 Degrees and will of course welcome their response.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have just received an email message from 38 Degrees, an online campaigning organization in the UK that claims to have three million members of which, apparently, I am one. \u00a0The subject line is &#8220;Islamic&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1006","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-web-exclusive"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1006","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1006"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1006\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1017,"href":"https:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1006\/revisions\/1017"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1006"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1006"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ericlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1006"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}